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A contract, or in this case a treaty, is only as good as the honor of the persons signing it. Go back through both sides of this history and you will see that at the onset the Indian "treaties" were doomed from the start since they were signed by Europeans who did not believe "your word is your bond", who rather would lie, steal, cheat or kill to get what they wanted. It all comes down to greed and riches. Everything that has happened to the native population of the American continents happened because of selfish greed. With a "Christian" religion backing them up and telling them that the only "good" people were Christian people, that apparently equated to it is fine to kill anyone who isn't Christian, forgetting altogether the teachings of Jesus Christ. There was a way to attain some of this land without doing what we did to the native population. There is no excuse, no possible defense for the crimes committed against the original inhabitants of this American Continent.
Apparently, even today, we are still willing to "break our word" by continuing to break promises and treaties made long ago IN EXCHANGE for land we wanted. Now we have the land, we want to renege on the promises and treaties. All in the name of hard times, of economic problems. What about the problems these broken promises cause the American Indian? I suppose politicians today are no different that the greedy Europeans of yesteryear. As long as it keeps them flush, as long as it doesn't ruffle their pocketbooks, as long as THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT, they really don't give a rat's ass what a broken treaty means for the American Indians. Nor do they care that it demonstrates that the word of the white man STILL CANNOT BE TRUSTED. Who cares? It won't get much public attention, it won't hurt our re-election, and like everything else we've demonstrated in the past, we will get what we want. AGAIN, just take it from the lowest, weakest group of people in the country! Why, because we have no damn integrity! Suggestion: If this makes you as mad as it does me, pick up the phone, pick up a pen and write to your congressmen and senators and the president of the United States for that matter. This dishonor MUST STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHECK OUT THIS INFORMATION REGARDING ALL THE BROKEN PROMISES AND TREATIES WE'VE MADE WITH THE INDIAN NATIONS OF THIS GREAT LAND, WHICH by the way, USED TO BE THEIRS!
The long series of land usurpation's that would gradually erode Native American territory began with the slash of a quill pen upon parchment; a seemingly innocuous sound, but one masking a hidden motive. Though the United States would employ the resources of its vast military in an effort to enforce its policy of containing the numerous tribes, each land cession was made "legal" by a simple piece of paper--a treaty. This was the weapon employed by a growing nation as it sought the most expedient means of securing its swelling boarders. The American government offered recompense, resettlement, and even trade to the states with which it was dealing in exchange for the lands it intended to occupy. To many Native Americans, however, selling the land was an alien concept. The land was elemental; it was as essential to life as air and could not be owned by anyone. To agree to "give up" all or even a percentage of the land seemed as absurd as selling the air. It was, however, through the treaty that the plight of the Native American began.
In theory, a treaty is a mutual compact between two nations. In practice, there was nothing mutual about the treaties authorizing land cessions--and all too often the re-compensatory provisions of such treaties were mitigated before the ink could dry. The treaty system dates to the colonial period. Native American nations signed compacts with the English, French, and Dutch settlers and eventually with the permanent colonies in the years before the American Revolution. After the French and Indian War, the English government sought to control colonial expansion into territories west of the Appalachian watershed. The Royal Proclamation of 1763 was meant to define the boarders of colonial America, but it only alienated the colonists. When the colonies declared independence, they adopted a departmental system to deal with their Indian neighbors--three superintendents that answered to Congress.
To the United States, Native American nations were only de facto states. In the implementation of its diplomatic policy toward the Native American population, the United States assumed the role of an empire over a protectorate. This opened the door for segregation and near decimation of the Native American population. With its first treaty with an Indian state in 1778 (with the Lenni Lenape, or Delaware Indians) through the Treaty of Echota of 1835 (with the Cherokee in Georgia) the only policy has been removal. This is not to say that the treaties were one sided. In fact, the American government did provide re-compensatory provisions in exchange for title to Indian lands. Often a relocation allowance and future payments were given, as in the case of the controversial Treaty of Echota. However, subsequent acts of Congress and shifting political winds demuted many such provisions. Why then were these treaties signed?
Examining the major land cessions from 1784 to 1894, it is clear that nearly all of these treaties were forced on Native American nations. Most were negotiated after wars; as in the case of the Treaty of Greenville (1795), the Treaty of Fort Jackson (1814), and the Treaty of Fort Armstrong (1832). These wars were started by white settlers encroaching on Indian lands. Other treaties were brought about by the demands of the individual states, as with the Treaty of Echota. This treaty removed the Cherokee from their territory and resettled them in a designated Indian Territory in Oklahoma. They were forced out in a march that killed over 4000 Cherokee. Following the Civil War, those nations that had allied with the Confederacy (such as the Cherokee and Creek) were forced to give up more territory.
By 1890, nearly every Native American nation was reduced to a reservation. Those that were not relegated to this state were all but extinct. The consolidation of land was complete. Reservation life did have its degree of success. Many prospered. It was a hard road, but they managed to endure. Many more nations suffered for want of funds, suitable agricultural opportunities, and good leadership. Constant legal battles to retain what little lands that remained occupied the Cherokee, Comanche, and Creek nations. The forces of change were gathering strength, however. The last gasp of those seeking to destroy the Indian way of life was the Dawes General Allotment Act of 1887--which proposed to break up reservations into 160 acre plots. The motivation behind this legislation was the end of the concept of Native American states as nations and their assimilation into American culture. Those tribes that accepted this provision faced their own legal issues when the Curtis Act of 1898 attempted to dissolve their governments. Native sovereignty would have disappeared were it not for the efforts of John Collier, who, as Commissioner of Indian Affairs, brought pressure on Congress to pass legislation that enumerated the rights of Native Americans. The result was the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934, the provisions of which restored native lands, provided better medical services to reservations, and encouraged the development of business opportunities. This sins of the past were not wiped clean, but finally the Native American nation was secured under the laws of the United States. With a renewed status, many nations went about the task of rebuilding a proud heritage that is so much a part of this nation...this nation of many nations.
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It's amazing how you feel remorse.Most people believe what was done to my people is the past or they say,"Stupid Indians deserved it!"It is comforting some people feel remorse for something you did not do.
ReplyDeleteI am the guy with the 8th grade education, every one out there should get Kevin Costners 500 nations , YES YOU ARE RIGHT I FEEL REMORSE AN DISGUST FOR WHAT ONE RACE COULD DO TO ANOTHER, WHEN THE WHITE MAN LANDED ON THE SHORES OF THIS LAND AN WAS STARVING, THE INDIANS HELPED THEM AN HOW DID WE REPAY THEM,WE REPAID THEM WITH LIES, DECEPTION, GREED, AN ANY WAY WE COULD, TO TAKE WHAT WE WANTED, FROM THE PEOPLE WHO TRYED TO HELP US....IN AWAY THEY WHERE STUPID , THEY WERE LIKE SMALL CHILDREN , TRYING TO HELP AN IN RETURN, WE STABE THEM IN THE BACK,WHEN MY WIFE AN I TRAVEL AN GO ON A REASERVATION, I CAN SEE THE HARD FEELINGS IN THE EYES OF YOUR PEOPLE, NOT ALL , MOSTLY THE OLDER ONES, AN I FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT BECUASE MY WIFE AN I DID NOTHING TO HURT YOUR PEOPLE, BUT I UNDERSTAND, WHY THEY FEEL THIS WAY, WHAT KEEPS ME GOING IS THAT WE WILL ALL STAND BEFOR ONE GOD, AN BE JUDGE THE SAME WAY.....GOD BLESS YOU ALL..OF ALL RACES....AMEN
DeleteI am marching March 20 in D.C. because enough is enough. I have always felt HUGE compassion and remorse for America's Indigenous people and worldwide. For me this started when I was very small and could not even watch that beautify America ad on T.V. without sneaking off to cry. I was always very ashamed to pretty much even be here. Then, when I learnt in a college course "the state of native America" the hundreds upon hundreds of atrocities committed against our indigenous people... I barely finished the coursework - it was too painful. Today, I happy to be a sister human being here and share in the responsibility to protect the earth, water, and air and am grateful for the defenders doing for us what we aren't doing for ourselves. -Suzanne from Cincinnati
Deleteso im ready for the apology when are you filthy savages going to apologise to my European brothers?
ReplyDeleteTo the anonymous of DEC.4,2011, you and your European brothers shall have your day in front of the "King of Kings, the Lord Jesus Christ, then you will say "I was good to people on earth," but he will tell you " Get away from me you workers of evil doings, because I don't know you.amen
DeleteTO ANONYMOUS DEC. 4TH 2011 FROM ANONYMOUS DEC. 17TH 2013 THE GUY WITH THE 8TH GRADE EDUCATION, IF AN I SAY I9F YOU REALY WANT TO LEARN SOMETHING GO GET THE SET..OF 500 NATIONS BY KEVIN COSTNER IF THIS DOES NOT OPEN YOUR HEART TO WHAT THE WHITE MAN DONE TO THE INDIANS, THEN ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU ARE NOTHING BUT DEAD AN MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU ..AMEN
DeleteTo the above - "8th grade" is way way way too nice. His type of ignorance has nothing to do with education. He suffers from another sort of ignorance that only a certain kind of education can help. That education is based in personal, first-hand experience. None of us gets out of our lessons. Eventually, we all learn, one way or another, if not in this life, then the next. I don't envy his road at all. How miserable it must be to have such a pit for a heart.
DeleteI am not going to appologize for what the United States Government has done to the American Indians. I keep these thoughts in my mind and heart daily as I see the lack of actual intent of 'freedom' and 'peace' being only two words that the US has used the Constitution to be only a 'door mat'!
ReplyDeleteI've quoted many times regarding the US Government/US Senate..."forked tongued", as the American Indians put it. I believed that as a young boy and today as an old man. I've always thought that if the world were flat...the US Army and The American Corporations would still be pushing the Indian West!
Trust and Integrity...are two words that are unknown to those in both House of Congress!
The atrocities and lies, betrayal of the American Indian by the US Government is something I am deeply ashamed of. I offer an apology from myself on behalf of other Americans that feel the same as I do. I also apologize for the "Racist Idiots" who posted the above offensive comments. Not every white person feels like they they do (Thank God!). My apologies mean little and do little to make amends but I offer it anyway.
DeleteI agree with this guy ^.
Deletethere is no more trust or honesty. That was gone along time ago
DeleteEuropean colonists had lived in North America for 7,000 years before the Asians came and committed genocide against them. Only in that case, they made certain that every individual was dead. The "native" Americans are blood kin to Ghengis Khan, king of the Mongols, who invaded Europe (before Columbus) and murdered 50 million people. Even when intrinsically considering the terror inflicted upon the North American inhabitants for the past five centuries, it always stuck me as odd that during that entire period, they never saw a single speck of White technology or a single strand of White DNA that they didn't like.
ReplyDelete'European colonists had lived in North America for 7,000 years before the Asians came and committed genocide against them. Only in that case, they made certain that every individual was dead. The "native" Americans are blood kin to Ghengis Khan, king of the Mongols, who invaded Europe (before Columbus) and murdered 50 million people.'
DeleteI am not sure where you got this impression. Remains of that age hardly correspond to the genetic populations of today so it is not accurate to say these people are Europeans. It would do all of us good to check out our understandings before grasping doggedly onto our dogmatic beliefs.
According to Scripture, the universe is not older than 6,500 years, it can be deduced from dates it gives. You're ignorant. "mindless and unlearned arguments avoid, for you know they only breed quarrels." - apostle Paul
DeleteFor the white man who thinks he owes us no apology. You came and took our land, you took our natural resources. You killed and raped our people. And you feel as if we shouldn't defend ourselves. It galls me when a white man tells American Indians, or Mexicans to go back to their country. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY.... IT DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU, YOU NEVER BOUGHT IT, YOU TOOK IT. YOU KILLED AND RAPED OUR PEOPLE. YA YOU OWE US AN APOLOGY, BUT LIKE MOST WHITE MEN YOU DON'T THINK YOU OWE US ANYTHING. NOW LOOK AT THE LAND, YOU HAVE DESTROYED IT. ALL OF IT.
ReplyDeleteI do not own any one an apology, I am 55 yrs old I have never hurt anyone or treated anyone of another race or religion different. If you want dig up the graves and ask for one from the dead be my guest and while you are at it, dig up all the dead Indians also, just remember Indians and Aztecs were killing and enslaving each other,long,before the evil white man saved them from each other. Remember you would be still crapping in your tepees. Grow up and live your live for your children you are living a pipe dream and only hurting yourself and your children. My sister married an Indians a Chippewa and had six kids, and yes they try to learn their native past, how ever they all married white and Spanish, they are living as Americans cannot change the past, so get over it live your live to the fullest. Hate only eats you up, which is what the libtards want that way they can continue to destroy your only hope for the future.
Delete@Heinz 57. You claim to never have hurt anyone, but here you are now spewing right-wing propaganda from the same forked-tongue of our ancestors to try and cover up the crimes of the bastards that founded this nation of hypocrisy. The people on this blog are trying to spread awareness of this appalling history to change America and the world for the better, and yet you would see that undone. You have hurt more people than you could possibly imagine, and have demonstrated the epitome of typical American ignorance of your own nation's history.
DeleteTom, I am so sad you think I am ignorant NOT! HA HA don't ya love it. You people are so sad and pathetic I almost pity you. But I still luv ya as a fellow American and human being and you have the right to be mentally unbalanced and educated by the America haters. All people like yourself are doing is making themselves bitter and sad. Get over it already help save your country from imploding.
Delete'save your country' ???
Deleteby doing what? engaging in more of the insanity that is bringing this sick and twisted culture to it's knees?
your man made construct that is the economy is destroying the natural world. look AROUND. toxic soil, land and water. increased intensity and frequency of floods, droughts, storms, haboobs and derecho's.
western civilization and the american way of life are at odds with how we were meant to live. and the earth cares not if you wish to have electricity, heat/air conditioning and drive a car and think this is the way of life all generations after you will have. it's not going to happen.
i can't wait to see this country and globalization fail. i only hope it happens in time for the more meaningful life forms to survive.
First of all, there is no proof only theory that Native American's were related to Asians. They maintain they have always been here and I have no reason to doubt them...no one has proved differently. Regardless of whether you owe an apology for the atrocities of the past, you certainly do owe an apology for the atrocities that CONTINUE TO HAPPEN TO THIS DAY!!!! The residential schools still existed in the 70s...and that is 1970s people! Native people have one of the highest incidences of suicide...hard to stay positive in such poverty! Native Americans today continue to live in third world poverty. I'm sure you ignorant bastards think the Casinos was the answer...well it wasn't! I apologize for all the wrong doing that the US government continues to this day! I am sorry for over 500 broken treaties! I apologize for all these ignorant comments by white people who just don't get it and NEVER WILL!!!!!
DeleteIt's all destroyed hah? If that were so you wouldn't be talking on a computer about it, the cell towers, and internet grid would be gone.
DeleteIt is disappointing that in a place like this that was meant to attempt to heal and show our understanding of what was done wrong (though we cannot change the past) - still we have people who want to justify these atrocities. These things that happened to the Native peoples WERE ethnic cleansing (same as what happened to the Jews, and in Bosnia, and in Africa) - unfortunately it has happened all over the world, many times throughout history. Whenever two populations meet, and one thinks the other is less human or less advanced, they will take from them and tell themselves that it is their right. It is not. I am sorry for this aspect of humanity, that we apparently do not learn from the lessons of history. I am a white person and a Native Americans Study major at University, and I will dedicate my life to educating ignorant people like some of those who have commented here about what really happened so that hopefully in that way I can help impact the future. In my opinion, no person or government that holds racism in their heart and thinks it is okay is "civilized" - they need to be educated. I have learned how WISE and beautiful many aspects of Native culture and child rearing were prior to contact, and indeed they were superior to European cultures in many ways. Unfortunately for them, they did not have the technological advancement and the disease antibodies to defend themselves from the attack of Europeans, and that is what did them in. But still, even after Europeans came in and took over their lands and made treaties, it wasn't good enough, and they had to break their word repeatedly and show how little honor they had and how heartless they were. I believe that they saw the Native peoples as a constant threat and competitor for land, so they felt they needed to destroy them. How can anyone see it differently? So, I am sorry for what happened and what is still happening due to people like these who posted their "hate" in this space. To any Native Americans who might be reading this, I would like to say that I thank your ancestors who I am learning many wise lessons from everyday - that is one part of their legacy that is positive.
ReplyDelete"still we have people who want to justify these atrocities."
DeleteI think you are too quick to believe these comments aren't just jokes by bored people wanting to get a rise out of others or just having fun of being absurd.
THE SADEST THING IS THIS GOVERNMENT POINTS TO OTHER COUNTRY'S AND SAY'S THEY ARE ANTI-CHRIST AND KILL'S THERE LEADERS STILL TO THIS DAY !! AND IF YOU TALLY UP ALL THE WARS TOGETHER THERE WERE MORE INDIAN PEOPLE KILLED THAN ALL WARS COMBINED !!! AND THE INDIAN PEOPLE ARE STILL IN PRISON ON THERE OWN LAND (AKA RESERVATION'S) TO THE INDIAN PEOPLE "IT'S STILL PRISON" ..... SO LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER COUNTRY'S AND SEE IF THEY STILL HAVE THE NATIVE PEOPLE IN PRISON AFTER 100 YEARS !!! BUT POINT OUT OTHER COUNTRY'S THAT THEY WANT TO ATTACK AND MAKE THEM SEEM EVIL WITH PROPAGANDA AND NEGATIVE NEW REPORTS JUST SO THEY WILL GET APPORVAL TO INVADE AND KILL THERE PEOPLE AND KILL THAT LEADER .... "ANTI-CHRIST" COME TO MIND ??? WELL I HAVE SAID ENOUGH .. ONE LAST THING ..I AM SORRY FOR ALL WRONG DOING'S THAT HAPPENED TO ANY NATIVE INDIAN AND YES YOU WERE 100% RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF AGAINST THE WHITES AND NOTHING WILL GIVE YOU BACK THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE LOST AND IM 1/4 CHEROKEE "JUST" RESENTLY FOUND OUT AND IM VERY PROUND AND VERY VERY SAD AT THE SAME TIME !!!
ReplyDelete"THE SADEST THING IS THIS GOVERNMENT POINTS TO OTHER COUNTRY'S AND SAY'S THEY ARE ANTI-CHRIST" huh, when did this happen? Stupid comment. You're ignorant and confused. "Mindless and unlearned arguments avoid, you know they only breed quarrels" - the apostle Paul
DeleteTO ALL THOSE IN READING RANGE... I am half Apache and Mex. I hold strong in my heart the pride of both nations. But what I will not listen to and what I will not give a second of my time is when someone tells me to go back to my country. SORRY, BUT THIS IS MY COUNTRY... IT HAS BEEN FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS... THE LAND OWNED BY THE AMERICAN INDIANS, AND MEXICO.
ReplyDeleteI have been studying broken treaties in my English class and was disgusted when I discovered how cruel America was in their ways of pushing the Native's out of THEIR OWN LAND! I too would like to apologize on behalf of America. Well the American's with hearts and compassion for others instead of only caring about their own selfish government. I know that the Native's would have lived in peace with the American's had we let them continue their own ways of living instead of killing off the large amount that we did and then forcing the rest to live the savage way that we do. And to the comment about us apologizing to the Europeans, When you live in America for longer than history goes back, and we force you out with violence... I'll apologize.
ReplyDeleteYou people are idiots, the Indians were killing and enslaving each other long before the white man came. Now if any body reads history you will see most nations were build through blood and violence. History is full of broken treaties, the strongest and most advanced will always win, so get over it already. The Indians and Mexican people are Americans they are N.Americans if born in United States and have just as much rights as anyone else, show me a country that does that, what they choose to do with it, is up to them. Well as for our Mexicans brother and sisters most of you are decedents, from the French and Spaniards, mixing with the natives peoples so keep whining, about the white man . Have stolen the land of Mexico and South America from the inhabits that occupied it at that time. Keeping chips on your shoulders just creates conflicts and keep you bitter and angry. Look at it this way, the Indians have their own lands that are mostly free from the forked tongued devil, what people does, that for defeated foes. Now as for the Mexicans when they give back the land they stole from the inhabitants they may have a better country and can becomes citizen their. All of you should thankful your ancestors paid a heavy price for your posterity you are free to do and become what you desire in the land of the home and the free and the brave of all races.What does English class have to do with history, it is part of the infiltration of anti American forces teaching at schools. Just remember when America goes so does everyone's freedom and we become a third rate two bit place like Mexico and South America and most of the rest of the world. Seek real truth and not the anti America propaganda you are programmed to believe, their are two sides to all stories sort through the lies from both sides, no group of people are free from all the things the white is charged with, we leaned from our black, brown, yellow, and red brothers and sisters.
ReplyDeleteclearly mankind overall is far from perfect, but the Euros clearly did commit grave travesties against the Natives. That some were bad or bad to others doesn't justify, excuse, void or lessen what happened.
DeleteLook all around did we not build the greatest and most powerful nation in the world. History is history you cannot change the past, but we can all create a better future, but you have to work to gather to do it. I do not lose sleep over the past dealings in history, if you want a better future for your children earn it and stop whining about the past. Horror stories from every group of people that had to deal a stronger group of people from all races. The creation of nations such invasion to conquer the land is only going to happen again if we allow the muslems to gain power and we become weak,so you van stand for the freedom you have or whine and sniffle about the past. Beside if not the Europeans then it would have been the muslems and you would have been completely wiped out from the face of the earth or forced to to destroy your history and become a muslem and not know the past, but what the muslems want you to you to know if any. Just remember all side can be cold and cruel it is human nature and all side can be great .
ReplyDeleteYou are a fool.
ReplyDeleteAFTER READING THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE WAY THE INDIANS WERE TREATED BY THE WHITE MAN JUST ADD FUEL TO A STATEMENT MADE THAT LIFE HAS NO MEANING AND THAT MAN HAS NO PURPOSE IN IT! BY SLAUGHTERING OF NATIONS OF PEOPLE WOULD SERVE WHAT PURPOSE TO ANY GOD; ESPECIALLY TO THE WHITEMAN'S GOD. IF IN FACT THERE IS A GOD WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN BUT ACCEPT ONLY BY FAITH. TO UNDERSTAND THE PAIN, SORROW AND HARDSHIP THE INDIANS RECEIVED FROM THE WHITEMAN CAN ONLY BE FELT BY THOSE THAT HAVE COMPASION FOR OTHER LIFE AND WISHES TO SHARE LIFE; WHICH IS THE PHYSICAL EXISTENCE WITH THE CAPABLILITY OF DOING ALL THE PHYSICAL THINGS THAT ONE CANNOT DO BEORE OR AFTER YOUR EXISTENCE. THE WHITEMAN CONSIDERS HIMSELF A HIGHER LEVEL THAN AN ANIMAL AND YET ANIMALS KILL FOR PRESERVATION AND MAN JUST KILLS FOR WHAT REASON? WE AS AMERICANS CANNOT CHANGE THE PAST BUT WE CAN SHOW THE PRESENT, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE NATIVES OF THIS LAND, BY SHOWING COMPASSION FROM THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN A GOD AND PRAY THAT THE WORLD OR OUR NATION NEVER HAS TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PURGING OF A RACE, RELIGION OR CREED OR NATIONALITY BY DESCENDANT. HOW ARE WE GOING TO EXPLAIN TO THE CREATOR AS TO WHY WE TREADED HIS CREATION SO BADLY? FORGIVE US FATHER FOR WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE HAVE DONE SEEMS SO LACKING FOR AN APOLOGY AND TO THINK WE SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE WE ARE WHITE. wHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD OF THE REDMAN MURDERING HIS OWN KIND, RAPING THEIR WOMEN, RIOTING AGAINST OTHER RED MEN, LOTTING AND STEALING; AND YOU CALL US SAVAGES. PAUL LEESE
ReplyDeleteIt really does sadden me that there is so much ignorance, and so much hate, from people, at their own race and country. Do you not know the truth or do you not want the truth,you can read real history and from both sides, and get the real truth, but never if you always blame somebody else. History is history get over it, what do you think government is going to give the land back. Look there has been atorsities all Thur history. White people are the only race that constantly trying to destroy itself. Really you don't hear blacks constantly blaming the black Africans, that enslaved them and sold them to the Arabs and and other races, no only the white man gets blamed, it is the same with the Mexicans who to this day mix treats the native inhabits or the Japanese all the horrors from them or same with the Chinese and Arabs and even the Indians killed each other and enslaved and each others and took lands, but for some reason it is only the white thats bad. Fools when you have destroyed the only thing between you and communist or muslems, and have destroyed your own children s future, BLAME YOUR OWN STUPIDITY AND HATE. MORONS. WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TO LATE. DON'T BLAME GOD FOR EVERYTHING MAN DOES, MAN HAS RAPED AND KILLED AND STOLEN FROM EACH AND ENSLAVED EACH OTHER SINCE TIME BEGAN, AND WE DESIRED SOMEBODY ELSE'S STUFF.
ReplyDeleteThe arrogance that permits some here to proclaim "we built the greatest nation on earth!" only gives evidence to an acute ignorance of true history. You built nothing. You stole 84% of the land you now claim as yours. Your President Polk openly conspired to invade Mexico nd slaughter its people to lay claim to the Western United States. You build your White House with slave labor. You were worst than the anti-Christ in the treatment of Native Americans. You are so socially retarded that you still think that invading Iraq and killing more than 100,000 innocents was justified and somehow related to your security as if you are the precious few of the earth. What was taken from Mexicans and Indians cannot be replaced because the white man never obtained it. They took the land but never learned the wisdom. The respect for natue and the belief that all things have spirits protected the earth from the ravages that the white man brought upon it. Indians lived in this continent for 20,000 years and never over populated, never put a species in extinction, never polluted the water or contaminated the air and in less than 300 years "The greatest nation on earth" has destroyed the planet for everyone. Congratulations, you must be proud.
ReplyDeleteThen take it back, wah wah that is all you ever hear. Well you are getting your wish the country is being destroyed from with in, the only problem is that you are the make believe oppressed, peoples are not going to get it back. It will be destroyed for you and your children as well as mine, so smile and be happy. Oh you really should study real and correct history, I agree on some points bads things happened when should not have. You cannot change history and nothing you or me is going to change that. I think I am wasting my finger tips typing some fools are fools for life, they refuse to see how good they have it and want to destroy it it really is sad. I did not live when your cherry picked history happened so that is not my responsibly, I live in real ville probably in part of the 84% don't ya just love it.
ReplyDeleteYes, Thanks, Heinnz 57 your ignorant.
ReplyDeleteHeinz 57 you keep advising people to study the true history when it is very obvious that you have not. You keep saying get over the past! What you fail to understand is the treaties are still being broken, the genocide and assimalation systems that by the way were a horrible way to treat any human being to begin with are still in place today! While today many of our first nations people are on the front lines and cutting edge to provide this planet with long term renewable energy recources! Ones that will heal the planet! You throw out the advice to others to think of their children well are you doing the same? It certainly doesn't sound like it.We as a nation do not only owe these beautiful people an apology but also a huge thank you! Show some gratitude and respect for these people who still live in deplorable poverty , the people who still stand like warriors against a greedy corporate driven governmant who by the way do not care who they poison and kill in this country you me them or our children! You could learn alot from these people if only you would open your heart and your mind! Much of what has been said here that you apperently didn't read is about that but how can we move foward if we do not first aknowledge the past and be willing to learn the truth about our history no offense but it sounds to me like your knowledge base is limited but then again it isn't like our governmant hasn't spent 100's of years hiding the truth!!!
DeleteYOU ARE WELCOME!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteJust piece of shit you are
DeleteThe U.S. was built with lies, corruption, and pure hatred of any other race than "whites". The misrepresentation of "all men are created equal" is just one of the many manipulating acts created by the elite white rulers of America. How did the consciously put these words down on paper while simultaneously wiping out the indigenous people of this land? It makes sick to my stomach to have descended from these egocentric individuals, claiming and hiding behind GOD and freedom. The descendants and the alike continue to misguide, mistreat, and misrepresent what being a human truly means. While a few individuals can only express their sorrow and ask for forgiveness from the atrocities committed by their ancestor, one thing for sure is that justice for the Indian Nation will in time be realized. America is a weakening nation that is becoming vulnerable and soon will crumble like the Roman Empire.
ReplyDeleteThen just leave the country that you hate so much, it is not yours anymore right! or you are so sick why not just kill yourself and put yourself out of your misery. Think that is why you have a brain in your head and not a heart.
DeleteThe core belief that drives conservative politics, is the idea that government power, although necessary, can be very dangerous if it gets out of control. Particularly a large, powerful body such as the US Federal government, that has armies at its disposal.
ReplyDeleteNo group of Americans understands this better the Native Americans. The long, woeful tale of massacres, false promises, and broken treaties... is almost too horrible to behold. Trust the federal government? That's crazy! Look at their track record!
It gets worse.
The Constitution is the "treaty" that we, the people, have with the Federal government. The Federal government has broken that treaty, too -- is anyone surprised? -- and will soon unleash brutal repression on all of us, in violation of that treaty.
We're all Indians now.
Unless a house is built by Yahweh, that house will not stand, the Constitution was not founded on God's word.
DeleteHeing 57 if ignorance is a blessing then you are very blessed. Try reading something like Guns Germs & Steel or The People's History of the U.S.
ReplyDeletei'd even toss in 'lies my teacher told me', just as a reinforcer.
DeleteI'd toss in Cat in the Hat and Alice in Wonderland.
DeleteWow, This site sure didn't turn out like it was intended. I came to this site to ask the lady of this site if she knew what site has the text of the 1793 Treaty of Nogales and the text of the 1784 Treaty of Mobile and the Text of Pickney's Treaty of 1795 ?
ReplyDeleteIf people look at the history of mankind of most nations and peoples. They will find for whatever reasons and generally there is given a multitude of reasons and many of those reasons are half truths or lies. That there has been a world of unmentionable cruelty. At the heart of this oppression and killing of others are power and wealth.The meek and those which desire to just live in peace have to bare the unbareable in misery.Most people are empathetic to anyone or any people's suffering, aren't they ?
It's horrible to see the same hate that started the holocaust, civil war, and multiple other genocides still being used. The hate hasn't left the hearts of many instead it has just took on a different form. This hate is what ruins the world. An apology is given, an apology is accepted and forgiven. Us as American's like to think we're perfect examples and we exceed every other human on every level, but it's an illusion. The Native's shared a love we've never been able to achieve. The Native's shared a kind heart that we never cared to acknowledge. The Native's were not perfect just as no other human is but we STOLE things from that have never been returned. We're supposed to be a country of justice and equality but yet we'll take away every other individuals rights who are not American's. I never like using the word hate, in fact I hate it. Love sounds a lot better to me, and I think it's time to love. I think this blog did a great job showing my sorrow and many others.
ReplyDeleteLeaders give strength to the next generation.They were born into a world bent on assimilation, but first nations elders like Frank Arthur Calder and Grand Chief George Manuel refused to buckle under colonial control.
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LOL at how much free time everyone on this blog has. how bout we stop beating each other up for shit our great great fuckin ancestors did, and just focus on making the future as enjoyable and equally fair to everyone as possible. peace and pot
ReplyDeleteWow, I'm shocked at some of the comments on here. But then that's America 2013. And it doesn't look like it'll ever improve much either sadly. The older I get and the more I learn about our history as a nation, the more I am beginning to believe reparations/true apologies are in order for the too many sins of this nation. If you harm someone-or a group of any people-then you need to apologize and do reparations for what you did. That's real "Christian belief." But the also sad fact is that 1 in 25 Americans are sociopaths---and too may of them are in places of power in all areas of America (corporate and government). So we'll just watch as the nation of Ame Ricans slowly dissolve into chaos and confusion. (Ame = Lover/Rican = Riches/American=Lover of Riches). Evil never stands forever.
ReplyDeleteI am doing a essay on the Indian Removal Act. The reason why I chose this topic is because I am Native American and it would be the only topic I would stay dedicated to throughout the process of writing a persuasive essay.
ReplyDeleteI found this while doing research on treaties with broken promises and I could not believe that someone would actually write an apology.
I understand Native Americans were not as innocent as they claimed to be. They have used African Americans as salves as well as their own people and maybe other races. However, Native Americans belong here. NATIVE MEANS "OUR LAND" in my own word (I strongly suggest you to look it up). This country we made to be known as THE UNITED STATES was once owned by the NATIVES ALONE. The Europeans had no right to forcibly take it away.
Caucasians do owe us an apology even if they did not do anything. Down the line, you are of European decent. You are really immigrants, illegal immigrants if you will. Native Americans did not like you white people. THEY SUFFERED ON THEIR FORCED JOURNEY OUT OF GEORGIA AND INTO OKLAHOMA, WHICH YOU ALL KNOW AS "THE TRAIL OF TEARS", OR AS US NATIVE AMERICANS CALL IT LIKE IT IS, "THE TRAIL WHERE WE CRIED".
THOSE RICH WHITE PEOPLE REALLY NEVER WORKED FOR SHIT. THEY INHERITED MONEY FORM THEIR DEAD ANCESTORS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND HOW DID THEY GET THAT MONEY. OH, I KNOW. THEY USED NATIVE AMERICANS, AFRICANS, AND MEXICANS TO DO ALL THEIR DIRTY WORK. HOW COME WHITE PEOPLE NEVER PICKED COTTON. BECAUSE THERE ASS FELT BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. THEY FELT THEY WERE SUPERIOR OVER OTHER RACES. AND IF YOU WHITE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE YOU DONT OWE ANY ONE ANY APOLOGY WELL THEN YOU CAN KISS MY ASS. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SOOOOO MUCH HORRIBLE THINGS, YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN FEEL PROUD OF BEING WHITE. AND TO THOSE WHO FEEL ASHAMED OF YOUR RACE, I APPRECIATE THAT, I DO NOT WRITE THIS TO OFFEND YOU PEOPLE. THIS IS ONLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO FEELINGS TOWARDS THIS TOPIC. I AM GLAD TO BE AFRICAN AMERICAN AND NATIVE AMERICAN BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE RACES HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOO MUCH AND YOU WHITE PEOPLE ARE SICK HUNMAN BEIGNS, SORRY IM JUST SAYING HOW I SEE IT. I COME FROM ANCESTORS THAT HAVE BEEN BEATEN TO DEATH BY WHITE PEOPLE AND THERE HAS BEEN NO JUSTICE.. WHY, BECASUE WHITE PEOPLE FELT THAT THEY WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET JUSTICE. WHITE PEOPLE WERE AND IN SOME CASES STILL ARE ALL FOR THEMSELVES. LIKE WITH RAISING TAXES, THEY DONT WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF RICH PEOPLE ARE WHITE AND THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE LESS FORTUNATE. THEY SEE A HOMELESS PERSON ON THE STREET AND THEY WOULD PROBABLY COVER THEIR NOSE AND PICK THEIR PACE UP, INSTEAD OF HAVING THE DECENCY TO GIVE THAT GUY FIVE DOLLARS OR MORE TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT. WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO SELFISH.
NO OFFENSE, BUT I AM GLAD I AM NOT WHITE. I am glad I do not have an iPhone or a flatscreen t.v. or mansion. I am glad that I have my stuggles because I can truly see that I am blessed, that there are other people who have less than what I have, that I can strive for the things I want instead of being handed everything. I know that I will not take anything for granted.
SORRY FOR THIS LONG COMMENT, I JUST NEEDED TO VENT
XOXO
Oh my the comments, I have recently been searching my ancestors and I can honestly say I am ashamed of them. I just can't believe how cruel they were. Being apart of their blood is upsetting. My ancestors had slaves and came here around 1638 so most likely became apart of killing Native Americans. They had lost their land due to the English attacking Wales they learned nothing from greed of others and became just as ugly as them. I've been told by others that the people who had the right idea about how to live are the Native Americans. The treaties should of been upheld. We actually have no business being here, I would love to live in my ancestors county but do to the greed in my own family I cannot. Yes the tradition continues,greed,greed. I distance myself from greedy and selfish people they make me sick. I am sorry for my families mistakes. I can't change what they did but I can give my voice and vote to try to stop injustice to others.
ReplyDeleteAt this very start I will state that I am neither a white man nor from a whiteman's part of the world. But I have been to those parts many times in my life's journey and have white men friends (and women and non-whites, of course).
ReplyDeleteI have a serious liking to read about history of the world. I have come to RESPECT the white man just like I would respect any with such a rich historical record. Somehow I stumbled upon this website and I respect the initiative and the HEART and WILL to do this.
Yes, many cultures have done atrocities to other cultures and who knows how many cultures have suffered/disappeared because of that. (some reason this is how nature works, but I beg to differ).
Initiatives like this can show the difference. White man has contributed to mankind in major ways - the rise of modern technology and new socio-economical-political options for future societies.
True, the white man's ways have also produced negatives, but other cultures have too, many still unscrutinised. Natives of many nations lose to immigrants some more violently than others. (Interestingly, that is why now those immigrants in MANY MANY MANY places are working hard to limit newer immigrants coming in!).
It is unfortunate; but don't forget it is a bigger responsibility of any currently losing societies to analyse and learn and adapt to the new realities. The world will continue to change and if we keep just focusing on how we were robbed of our 'good old ways', we are doing our next generation a major disfavour. Not
all 'good old ways' can work in the next society of 10 billion people on this planet, many violently opposed to each other in so many ways, and inventing new ways to destroy each other every single day with pride.
Permit me to digress, but we have a bigger fight for opportunites/equalities everywhere than just to focus on attrocities between cultures. The unfortunates everywhere (I am specifically talking about the poor) face the same issues
everywhere while the fortunates everywhere enjoy more than they deserve. (VERY honestly, my very first day in the US, a nice fully white couple were literally begging me for cash to pay for gas to return home a hundred miles away - I learned so much that day).
So many inherit richness or get extra opportunites just because where they were born into while others struggle for decades and still cannot make ends meet.
No, we should not do what Robin Hood did but the common people the world over should keep working to keep leveling the playing field - within and between societies - because the advantaged will always want to widen that advantage. We are all in the same struggle, and we can actually laugh together and make friends the world over but yet we point our guns at each other and accuse each other with, interestingly, the same arguments!
I just read about the white teenager from the UK who's making tens of millions with his yahoo deal and wonder why did this not happen among a native american (if it has, I apologise, my ignorance) or some other losing native on earth?
Back to this website, this IS a good honorable initiative (and I think this started from a pure white American man - religious or not) and I hope it will contribute to a better world as I too have descendants. Who opposes this initiative can do so maybe because he/she is in a better vantage point. I am a nobody and nobody may read this, but whoa, I feel I can sleep better tonight now hahaha. Now where's my wife...
Amen
DeleteIf you just happened to be reading the 67-page Defense Appropriations Act of 2010 (H.R. 3326), tucked away on page 45, in between sections detailing how much of your money the U.S. military would spend on what, you might notice Section 8113: "Apology to Native Peoples of the United States."
ReplyDelete"The United States, acting through Congress," states Sec. 8113, "apologizes on behalf of the people of the United States to all Native Peoples for the many instances of violence, maltreatment, and neglect inflicted on Native Peoples by citizens of the United States;" and "expresses its regret for the ramifications of former wrongs and its commitment to build on the positive relationships of the past and present to move toward a brighter future where all the people of this land live reconciled as brothers and sisters, and harmoniously steward and protect this land together."
Of course, the apology also makes it clear that it in no way admits liability in any of the dozens of lawsuits still pending against the U.S. government by Native Americans.
"Nothing in this section ... authorizes or supports any claim against the United States; or serves as a settlement of any claim against the United States," states the apology.
The apology also urges the President of the Unites States to "acknowledge the wrongs of the United States against Indian tribes in the history of the United States in order to bring healing to this land."
In the more than two years since enactment of the Defense Appropriations Act of 2010, the Obama White House has never publicly acknowledged the "Apology to Native Peoples of the United States."
If the wording of the apology sounds vaguely familiar, it's because it is the same as that in the Native American Apology Resolution (S.J.RES. 14), proposed in both 2008 and 2009 by former U.S. Senators Sam Brownback (R-Kansas), and Byron Dorgan (D., North Dakota). The Senators' unsuccessful efforts to pass a stand-alone Native American Apology Resolution date back to 2004.
Along with its 1993 apology to native Hawaiians, Congress had previously apologized to Japanese-Americans for their internment during World War II and to African-Americans for a allowing slavery to exist in the United States prior to emancipation.
On December 19, 2012, Mark Charles, representing the Navajo Nation, hosted a public reading of the Apology to Native Peoples of the United States in front if the Capitol in Washington, D.C.
"This apology was buried in H.R. 3326, the 2010 Department of Defense Appropriations Act," wrote Charles on his Reflections from the Hogan blog. "It was signed by President Obama on Dec. 19, 2009 but was never announced, publicized or read publicly by either the White House or the 111th Congress."
"Given the context, the appropriations sections of H.R. 3326 sounded almost nonsensical," wrote Charles. "But there was something very deep and meaningful about hearing them being read by Native Americans. To me it sounded almost like a silent form of protest. We were not pointing fingers, nor were we calling out our leaders by name, we were just highlighting the inappropriateness of the context and delivery of their apology."
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!Broken treaties an apology the whites tried to exterminate the Native Americans even to the point of the military giving them infected blankets. Not to mention the massacres of women and children and elders. They were forced out of their homes and put on worthless lands and locked away in what is called reservations, that were basically prison of war camps. When the whites set foot in this land now called the United States there was an estimated 8 million with a 90% decline after the white man came. Greed is what fueled the extermination of our brothers and sisters, and still today many of the western tribes like the Sioux still suffer because of the whites. If our government wants to do what is right HONOR ALL TREATIES AND GIVE THEIR LANDS BACK!! And treat them with the same respect you give among yourselves as whites. The treatment of the African Americans was terrible too but the government still tries to make amends for that but not with the Native people that this land original belonged to. The whites literally stole this country no ifs ands or buts about it. You can never fix it with an lame apology.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe you are 'sorry enough' to give anything back, so what is the point? You don't help the Indian whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteIt is incredible the way you really feel regret. Many people think that which was carried out in order to my personal individuals may be the previous or even these people state, "Stupid Indians earned this! "It is actually soothing many people really feel regret with regard to some thing a person didn't perform.
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Now, ask the mongols ('indians') where the first peoples they met when they swarmed the americas are ?
ReplyDeleteLet's see...a civililization that holds sacred the earth and sky...shows reverence for elders...cares for the sick and infirmed...listens to the voices of its ancestors, keeps close its children and teaches them right from wrong...hunts only what is needed to survive...wastes nothing...asks for nothing...lives and dies the best they know how...fattens when times are good and goes hungary when times are bad...where no word exists in language for "lie" where enemy warriors who fight bravely and with honor are respected...and where cowards are shunned and ridiculed. Where to fight for what one believes and protect those that cannot fight for themselves is honorable. Where words spoken and agreements made are iron clad, clear and concise. Where a man is judged on his character and actions...not his words or skin color.
ReplyDeleteImagine the rediculousness of just wanting to be left alone...to go as you please, to hunt where you please...sleep where you please, worship as you please, associate as you please, think and speak as you please...be safe and secure in your person and property...what nonsense.
Be warned...our time is coming. All of the things that we take for granted and have denied others for the last 400 years will be taken from us as retribution for the apathy we demonstrate on a daily basis.
How will we be remembered when we are gone? How will YOU be remembered? As noble, a man/woman of honor or as a slave...a conqured people?
Will you go gently into that good night...or will you fight?
Fight for the rights granted and guaranteed to all as human beings by our creator/great father, God, etc?
Or will our way of life just be gone...from that moment to forever?
I, of European decent, am sorry and ashamed of the genocide and murder of first nations people and the heart of the Earth Mother, currently called "America." This shame is deserved and I carry it daily, why, because people still don't get it. This state of being, now, is not and never was okay. It's all been driven from greed and lust for power, now all is about to be destroyed. Same damn government will do the same thing to the planet until everything is dead. I am very sorry.
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ReplyDeleteIt is really sad to see that this posting sight has turned into nothing but a huge screaming match. I cannot go forward in life with all of this hate. My father is 100% Cherokee and my mother half. We can not divide of blood and my Grandfather has taught us forgive. We have out own battles within. I am not able to hold a grudge to peoples who do not know.
ReplyDeleteI've been called unpatriotic a lot these days. Let me make it clear. I am patriotic. Just not to the U.S. I am a patriot to Anishinaabewaki, the Nation that deserves to have its land restored. The Nation that actually belongs here. I hold no good will in my heart towards the U.S. when it attacks the First Nations even today and even mistreats its own people whilst invading others.
ReplyDeleteI am amazed as I read back, the antagonistic style with which posters comment... I thought arose only this past year. Where have I been? That this sort of vehemence for one another has been abundant and I've been totally unaware.
ReplyDeleteRest assured, I am aware today and I am marching with Standing Rock in D.C. for the water, but more for the right of the indigenous people because honestly, come on! After studying to hundreds upon hundreds of broken treaties, the manipulation, deceit, control and contempt for those who came before us... well, quite frankly, I feel like NO MATTER WHAT IS THEY WANT they should get it - NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
That said, it just happens to be EXTREMELY REASONABLE that they want to protect OUR WATER! I've been saying for 10 years "it's the water" "it's the water that is going to get us" "Clean water is going to be a BIG deal". Isn't it time we let go of our immature hubris and realized as much as we know, WE DON'T KNOW SQUAT!
And for the record - I am soooooo sorry. I've had to work hard at just allowing myself to be here (you know, to be OK with my own humanness) And the truth is, there is nothing that could possibly make amends for the hardships, inherited and other... I guess we are stuck with each other and I am honored to stand with such.
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No matter what your past or present is, America and the rest of the world needs you to contribute to the welfare of this great planet. Everyone has a reason why he is here, and everyone is endowed with a talent the universe needs. Search your life and find your own, display it and make humankind happy. Stop making yourself unhappy by spewing out these negativities trying to hurt each other with words. A poor man can never earn a penny by sitting in his house counting his neighbor's wealth. Do something to make this place better.
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